Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Lun 25 Jan 2021 - 9:11
"When you hear that track, a couple of things come to mind - you hear that slightly out of tune 12- string. That's Dave Mason.
"But underneath it, there's Jimi playing all the heavy rhythmic upstrokes and downstrokes on the six-string.
"But in the background, you can hear very clearly and distinctly Mitch's [Mitchell] drums - you know that this is a part of a live take. And that sound of those two blended together, makes that one stereo track.
"Once again, compressed, EQ'd, there's no reverb on that that I can remember, and I don't think we actually added too much reverb because we needed something fairly dry in the mix to keep that crispness.
"It's an odd-sounding 12-string, I have no idea which type of 12-string, whether it was a Gibson or who the hell knows what it was! It could have been something that Dave Mason brought in or something that Jimi had in a case somewhere. Who knows?
"It's a really jangly 12-string, and it's got a kind of a gritty sound to it. Certainly, a lot of the bass has been rolled off in order to let it sit in the track and not interfere with the heavy bass end of Jimi's guitar and the drums.
"On careful listening again, I'm hearing just a touch of some kind of delay, but it's very, very, very faint. Just enough to sort-of make it maybe slightly bigger than we could have added at the very end and the mixdown process.
"Because this was transferred so many times, it is very conceivable that I stuck something like that in there. So if you're trying to recreate something like that in today's world, there's a couple of things you can do.
"What we did was we tried to recreate the three elements - the tape machine, the Helios Mic Pre, and the PIE limiter, and of course, they can't use those words anymore but it's HLS and pie, I believe correspondingly for the PIE limiter and the Helios.
"The plug-in is actually very nice, I use it myself quite often, certainly in the EQ world. You can't get it as a mic pre, although I've heard some rumors that somebody's trying to make a digital mic pre that sounds somewhat similar.
"The way I would approach it would be - use a normal mic pre, start to gradually distort the input, just gradually, just enough, and then use the plug-in for the EQ, and you'll get very, very, very close to that. That's the best way you can simulate that in today's market."
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Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Lun 25 Jan 2021 - 11:57
All Along The Watchtower est un Monument de la musique !
upfromtheskies
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Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Ven 30 Juin 2023 - 9:28
mandrake a écrit:
pourtant c'est jimi qui à écrit les notes directives pour l'élaboration de la pochette, pas de mention de Dave ou de Brian dans ses notes. Pour la pochette juste les directives de l’intérieur de la double pochette ont été respectés au USA.
upfromtheskies a écrit:
... avec de nouveau Jack Cassidy à la basse
l'erreur viens de Jimi lui même, dans ses notes manuscrites on peut lire on "Voodoo Child" Stevie Winwood - Organ, Jack Cassidy - Bass
Donc pour Jimi lui-même, le blues flamboyant de la face 1 avec Winwood et Casady s'intitule (aussi) Voodoo child, et non pas Voodoo chile.
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Ayler Admin
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Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Mer 16 Aoû 2023 - 17:42
Pas si sûr :
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upfromtheskies
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Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Mer 16 Aoû 2023 - 18:15
Bien vu! Mais le cartouche de crédits musicaux pour l'édition du LP est sans doute postérieur à l'écriture des paroles du morceau. Le second morceau (VCSR) a probablement été écrit après, d'après son titre. En éditant l'album, Jimi a peut-être voulu lier les deux en modifiant le premier titre. Mystère sur ce qu'il s'est passé pour que le titre original réapparaisse sur la pochette.
Purple Jim
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Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Ven 13 Oct 2023 - 20:25
Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Lun 30 Oct 2023 - 18:27
EL en Dolby Atmos - YouTube:
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humminbird3
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Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Lun 30 Oct 2023 - 21:03
Alors , c est bien ? convaincant ? il faut du matos !
Purple Jim
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Sujet: Re: Electric Ladyland (1968) Lun 30 Oct 2023 - 22:44
humminbird3 a écrit:
Alors , c est bien ? convaincant ? il faut du matos !
Non, c'est fait pour casques stéréo ou enceintes normales pour un effet son un peu "3D". Il existe des enceintes Dolby Atmos pour un effet supérieur je crois. On entend l'album différemment, comme avec le 5.1 surround sound.